I've got happy memories of watching the Two Ronnies as a kid. Who could forget "The Phantom RaspberryBlower of Old London Town" or "Charley Farley and Piggy Malone". Great stuff.
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Watchtower Gives Up Explaining 607 BCE Date!
by VM44 inthis is a very important observation, that the watchtower has not tried to explain in print why 607 bce is the year for the destruction of jerusalem for the last 17 years!!!.
all that the watchtower has done over most of the last two decades is to repeat over and over the year "607bce" in its publications as if it is an unquestioned fact!.
the last time an explaination for the year was attempted by the watchtower was in 1988 when the "insight" volumes were published, but since then, no explaination for the validity of the year has appeared in print.. this must mean something, but what?
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City Fan
that the seventy years was an interval beginning with Nebuchadnezzer's destroying the temple and depopulating Judah for seventy years in his 18 th year
I wonder where "celebrated Watchtower scholars" think the 745 Jews came from who were captured and exiled in Nebuchadnezzar's 23rd year if Judah was completely depopulated? (Jer 52:30) This would be 5 years into Scholar's fictional 70 year period of 'servitude-exile and desolation'.
Jer 52: 28: This is the number of the people whom Nebuchadrez'zar carried away captive: in the seventh year, three thousand and twenty-three Jews;
29: in the eighteenth year of Nebuchadrez'zar he carried away captive from Jerusalem eight hundred and thirty-two persons;
30: in the twenty-third year of Nebuchadrez'zar, Nebu'zarad'an the captain of the guard carried away captive of the Jews seven hundred and forty-five persons; all the persons were four thousand and six hundred.CF.
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Did Noahs Ark drift about aimlessly in the Great Flood?
by EliJah inno where does it mention that noah traveled around the world in his big boat.
in fact, is says that the ark was floating "high above the earth".
also, what does matthew mean about "just like in the days of noah?
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the scientific community attribute alot of geological changes to an ice age or state it took hundreds of millions of years for the continents to sepperate where as a deluge could easily explain those things as well
The scientific community isn't involved in some great conspiracy to hide all the evidence of a global flood. There just isn't any.
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The 1914 Doctrine and The Threat of the Egibi Business Tablets
by VM44 incould the watchtower and the jehovah's witnesses survive the discarding of their 1914 doctrine?
the doctrine that in 1914 the end of the gentile times took place, jesus took up rule in heaven.
for some reason the jws think the outbreak of world war i in 1914 is proof their prophetic calculations were correct.
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Scholar,
Thanks for all the replies to my questions.
So it seems that the Watchtower Society has full 100% confidence in modern scholarship, astronomical texts, king lists and cuneiform business and administrative documents that confirm 539 BC, but totally dismisses the same evidence and scholarship for any date before this.
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Watchtower Gives Up Explaining 607 BCE Date!
by VM44 inthis is a very important observation, that the watchtower has not tried to explain in print why 607 bce is the year for the destruction of jerusalem for the last 17 years!!!.
all that the watchtower has done over most of the last two decades is to repeat over and over the year "607bce" in its publications as if it is an unquestioned fact!.
the last time an explaination for the year was attempted by the watchtower was in 1988 when the "insight" volumes were published, but since then, no explaination for the validity of the year has appeared in print.. this must mean something, but what?
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City Fan
Celebrated WT scholars are not in the business of advocating any Babylonian chronology or any list of regnal years for the currently known Babylonian monarchs or kings
Scholar, please tell us how 'celebrated Watchtower scholars' calculate 539 for the fall of Babylon assuming they accept astronomical cuneiform text Strm Kambys400 as dating year 7 of Cambyses to 523/522 BC.
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The 1914 Doctrine and The Threat of the Egibi Business Tablets
by VM44 incould the watchtower and the jehovah's witnesses survive the discarding of their 1914 doctrine?
the doctrine that in 1914 the end of the gentile times took place, jesus took up rule in heaven.
for some reason the jws think the outbreak of world war i in 1914 is proof their prophetic calculations were correct.
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City Fan
evidence for the ninth year of CyrusII with his acc. year539 BC
Scholar, could you expand on what this evidence is? Would this be a king list or 'regnal based methodology' as you term it?
CF.
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The 1914 Doctrine and The Threat of the Egibi Business Tablets
by VM44 incould the watchtower and the jehovah's witnesses survive the discarding of their 1914 doctrine?
the doctrine that in 1914 the end of the gentile times took place, jesus took up rule in heaven.
for some reason the jws think the outbreak of world war i in 1914 is proof their prophetic calculations were correct.
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City Fan
Scholar,
I just wondered if you could explain exactly how 539 BC is determined. Does it also require any 'regnal based methodology' as you have termed it. Why is the dating of 539 BC so unique compared to other dates such as 597 BC?
CF.
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The 1914 Doctrine and The Threat of the Egibi Business Tablets
by VM44 incould the watchtower and the jehovah's witnesses survive the discarding of their 1914 doctrine?
the doctrine that in 1914 the end of the gentile times took place, jesus took up rule in heaven.
for some reason the jws think the outbreak of world war i in 1914 is proof their prophetic calculations were correct.
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City Fan
Scholar,
Just one question, could you please explain how 539 BC is determined as the date of the fall of Babylon?
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The 1914 Doctrine and The Threat of the Egibi Business Tablets
by VM44 incould the watchtower and the jehovah's witnesses survive the discarding of their 1914 doctrine?
the doctrine that in 1914 the end of the gentile times took place, jesus took up rule in heaven.
for some reason the jws think the outbreak of world war i in 1914 is proof their prophetic calculations were correct.
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City Fan
This event is unique because it is derived from astronomical dates and as a pivotal date it is well attested by biblical and secular history
eerrrr... what about 16th March 597 BC? Would that not qualify as a 'pivotal date' using the criteria you've specified? If not, why not?
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How can we know there is a God?
by defd inone way to determine whether there is a god is to apply this well-established principle: what is made requires a maker.
the more complicated the thing made, the more capable the maker must be.. for example, look around your home.
tables, chairs, desks, beds, pots, pans, plates, and other eating utensils all require a maker, as do walls, floors, and ceilings.
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City Fan
I can remember my grandad who was never a JW once saying to me when I was very young "If God made man then who made God?"
The argument that complex things must need a creator inevitably leads to the question "Who created God?".